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The Math doesn’t back it up…

Posted by keelynet on November 22, 2010

Science does not have all the answers. No one does. Math is NOT REALITY. Projections are NOT REALITY. Sure, you can get an idea as long as the effect you are studying follows linear behavior but it is an entirely other universe when you get into Non-Linear phenomena.

It is something I see a lot…investors are being advised by engineers who use math to disprove the possibility of any disruptive, novel technology from working based on their calculations assuming linear processes.

They don’t understand that many of these devices don’t rely solely on linear mathematics and predictable behavior…they rely on NON-LINEAR behavior which can’t be predicted though you can get some idea.

As a result, no one lifts a finger to actually try to build it because the math doesn’t support it. They fear losing time and money by even trying.

Well, DUH…you have to build it and rebuild it as necessary until you hit on that special geometry and effect that goes beyond understood physics.

Once you get that, DON’T SCREW WITH IT. Don’t try to take it apart or tweak anything. Use it as a MODEL to build another one that works the same and with that one you can analyze and tweak and even scale up.

So the engineering calculations don’t back up the claim, they tell the investors no chance in hell this will ever work, so the investors walk away and the technology is never developed.

They simply don’t realize that alternative science is about cutting edge, new effects that are so often grounded, indeed DEPENDENT on NON-LINEAR PHENOMENA that simply isn’t known or mapped out…yet….

Types of nonlinear behaviors;

* Indeterminism – the behavior of a system cannot be predicted.
* Multistability – alternating between two or more exclusive states.
* Aperiodic oscillations – functions that do not repeat values after some period (otherwise known as chaotic oscillations or chaos).

“Nonlinear problems are of interest to engineers, physicists and mathematicians because most physical systems are inherently nonlinear in nature. Nonlinear equations are difficult to solve and give rise to interesting phenomena such as chaos. The weather is famously chaotic, where simple changes in one part of the system produce complex effects throughout.”

A good example of non-linearity is chaos and sensitive dependency on initial values (the butterfly effect) that is closely associated to it: as time goes forward the nonlinearity amplifies the possible small differences in initial values and as a consequence one cannot predict the system’s behaviour that far in the future.

Nonlinearity can also have the opposite effect by creating coherence. As an example we have the soliton waves in shallow water (with tsunami as a catastrophic special case). Thus in solitons the nonlinearity aims to preserve structures, in stark contrast to chaos.

I know or have heard about several guys who built a machine or circuit that did something that was impossible according to formal science.

One guy built an energy converter and said he was actually able to pull about 200 watts from the air…he and his friend were so excited, they decided to USE THE PARTS FROM THIS ORIGINAL to make a bigger version…so they did and of course the bigger version didn’t work…when they took the big version apart, removed all the original parts and rebuilt the original, no amount of tinkering could recapture that magical arrangement that worked for them in the first place.

Another guy built a capacitive generator based on an odd effect that he managed to scale up. He claimed he could power anything he wanted to plug into it.

His device took advantage of an aether/zpe anomaly where a shock effect produced in the ambient zpe field produced an elastic self-closing hole in the aether/zpe background, think hole in a dike.

You blow the initial hole and let power come through to run whatever you want. When you disconnect the load, the hole closes and the energy flow stops. So you blow the hole again with whatever load you need connected.

His mistake was one day he had blown a hole and was powering some 1,000 watts from his machine. He disconnected it and the power wire touched the ground. He was in a rush to go somewhere so didn’t pick the power wire up.

When he came back a few hours later, his machine was a melted pile of plastic and metal. He says the wire touching ground was trying to electrify the earth so kept pulling power until it burned itself up. He told us he has tried to duplicate this device and failed each time. There was something special and unique about the original machine that he has yet to replicate successfully.

Take Lou & Christies generator down in New Zealand with the Lutec free energy generator that relies on magnets. Their original machine worked perfectly. They built other machines and can’t get them to work like that first one.

BUT, if they take the rotor from the original and put it in any of the copies, that one works! Something unique about that rotor which they have yet to figure out…I think they might have it worked out now but it was quite a job to figure out what is so special about that original rotor.

I know a group who has all the papers and files of a deceased inventor. They have photos, documents and handwritten notes, even a BLUEPRINT. Yet they are stuck in this endless, non-productive loop of caluculating what parts and dimensions which might reproduce what the inventor discovered and was able to use.

They haven’t lifted one finger to try to build any of it because the math (based on linear effects) doesn’t back it up.

So they have apparently shelved all of it, not spending the money or time to build any of it, simply because they can’t make it work on paper.

Never mind that the deceased inventor had a working device which was proven over and over again during his lifetime.

Never mind that they have photos of the device, its INTERNAL ARRANGEMENT and workings, all the notes and written information explaining how it was thought to work, but above all, the specific directions to build it.

Quit stammering with but, but, but, the math doesn’t work…IDIOTS! Math isn’t reality.

It is TOO easy to blow it all off, possibly world-changing new technology simply because they are too lazy, too inflexible in their thinking, too hung up on the ‘laws’ of physics, too afriad of failure and/or cheap to get off their asses and BUILD IT!

Discovery, exploration, invention all require sacrifice and above all, RISK.

They advise the investors of their ‘findings’ and so the money is pulled or never provided in the first place due to this really bad and STUPID advice, the project dies and fades out of history. Another remarkable new technology lost because…

‘the math doesn’t back it up’.

For scientists and engineers I’d recommend you open your minds to the FACT that everything isn’t known, laws can change or BEND and new working laws be discovered, so if there is a probability that someone has discovered new phenomena, try to build it rather than depending SOLELY on calculations that of course don’t back it up.

For investors, you have NO IDEA what new technologies and markets you could bring to reality if you just open your minds to realize how little we do know. Your investment could not only spark revolutions in science on all levels, but could bring you profit beyond your wildest dreams. All it takes is faith and providing maverick inventors a chance to follow their destiny.

See; VS Lab Project and VS Gravity Project

Read this Primer for Skeptics and Attackers with quotes from those who are OH SO SURE they or orthodox science have all the answers;

Your (Mostly) Dead Predecessors

“Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible.” (Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895)

“I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.” (Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943)

“The telephone has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us.” (Western Union internal memo, 1876)

“Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value.” (Marshal Ferdinand Foch, French commander of Allied forces during the closing months of World War I, 1918)

“The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?” (David Sarnoff’s associates, in response to his urgings for investment in radio in the 1920’s)

“Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?” (Harry M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927)

“Everything that can be invented has been invented.” (Charles H. Duell, commissioner, US Office of Patents, 1899)

So we need to get over these backward, static ideas that it’s all figured out and there are no chances for new discoveries that will change the world in ways we can’t predict or imagine, if we just fund, experiment and BUILD.


4 Responses to “The Math doesn’t back it up…”

  1. nortonmansfield said

    uhhh, but if it can’t be repeated, given your point, still, where does that get us?

    • keelynet said

      Can’t believe you didn’t understand it. When dealing with anomalous phenomena, we have to BUILD IT to find the correct design as in;

      “Well, DUH…you have to build it and rebuild it as necessary until you hit on that special geometry and effect that goes beyond understood physics. Once you get that, DON’T SCREW WITH IT. Don’t try to take it apart or tweak anything. Use it as a MODEL to build another one that works the same and with that one you can analyze and tweak and even scale up.”

      As clearly stated, once we have spent the time with experiments to find that one working pattern, then we can try to replicate and use those versions to STUDY the EFFECT and learn what is actually happening. What twist on natural laws is being applied? Or is it some new law that we have stumbled onto?

      The point was that we have all these clues and reports of fascinating machines and discoveries, but never do they seem to make it to practical applications and sales. Why, because the effects produced simply can’t be possible based on using accepted and understood rules of behavior that RELY on linear processes.

      It is realizing that we are in unknown, uncharted waters because these devices most likely use non-linear behavior and so can’t be predicted using standard ideas and theories…what some call ‘thinking outside of the box’.

      Science methodology still appies, we have a theory, we come up wth a hypothesis based on our current understanding and try to prove it by empirical observation.

      “The scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.”

      The entire article focuses on trying to predict anomalous phenomena using pure calculations BASED on linear processes which simply won’t support the claimed effects. HOWEVER, taking into account NON-LINEAR processes, it is quite possible we might discover a unique variation of standard physics OR maybe a new effect which uses a new, undiscovered law.

      I don’t care whether its some unique combination of existing laws or a new law, if we don’t try to build it and test it, basing our actions solely on calculations, we will be missing countless new discoveries that could lead to new, novel technologies.

      If investors are relying solely on engineering calculations based on linear processes, to decide whether to fund a project, they are completely missing the boat since ONLY BY BUILDING IT can we even begin to succeed with a working device. And from that untouched pristine model, we should be able to duplicate the anomaly for study and eventual practical application.

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